This is quite concerning

  • kae
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    1241 year ago

    This a huge step back for transparency with Meta (shocker). Access to this data is important for a variety of reasons, and using the recent EU laws as an excuse is deplorable (again, shocker from Meta).

    It’s clear the data companies were left alone for too long to rule the schoolyard. It’s going to take some time to treat them and others what decorum looks like without throwing an absolute hissy fit.

    Here’s hoping the EU, which seems to be the only teacher on the playground willing to discipline anyone, will set them straight.

        • @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Walmart can’t do shit without the cops.

          And do you realize how much they’re subsidized by the state? When has the state ever stopped Walmart from doing anything?

          • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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            181 year ago

            I thought we were starting over. What makes you think there won’t be cops?

            A badly MSPainted, AI Generated police officer in Walmart with Walmart logos on his cap and badge, and holding an AR-15 assault rifle

            It’s cute how people think scrapping the constitution and starting over will somehow make things better.

            • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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              201 year ago

              Imagine thinking the owning class wouldn’t be the ones creating the new constitution…

              Something needs to change, but once we open that can of worms were going to see things like:

              “All citizens are required to give all personal data to meta whether using the platform or otherwise.”

              “Oil will be enshrined as the National Energy Source™”

              “Union activity is an act of economic terrorism.”

            • @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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              -71 year ago

              Why do you think there will still be wal-mart?

              And why do you think the constitution binds anyone who matters? You’re treating it like a fucking magic spell.

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                They are among the top five richest corporations in the world and the leading employer in the world, last I checked. You going to dissolve that power? No? They have money and power, they will make the rules. You have to either find a way to dissolve them (good luck with that!), or you have to have another big power structure to keep them in check. That’s how it works.

                • @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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                  This power structure is based on faith and agreement. Its more fragile and fractious than you think.

                  And what the fuck are you smoking if you think the government is opposed to corps? Can I have some?

  • @snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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    741 year ago

    We should teach critical thinking and logic skill from month one. There will be so much propaganda and misinformation from this point on, being able to spot it, most of the time with common sense, would nip most of this crap in the butt.

    • IndiBrony
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      181 year ago

      Come on, you know those who have the influence over this don’t want it. Remember: Donald Trump loves the uneducated 👍

    • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      91 year ago

      I think the issue is more that people like propaganda and misinformation as long as they agree with it.

      There just seems to be something about seeing your own opinions coming out of a man in a tie or printed in a large serif font that gives people the same feeling as a cat having its neck scratched.

      And of course, once you hear one of your opinions come out of them, it’s easier to agree with the other ones as well.

    • @kahdbrixk@feddit.de
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      -31 year ago

      You do know that this comment could be posted word for word on a right wing post and everybody would agree with it just as well? The term “critical thinking” alone is so worthless, not to mention “common sense”. Some people justify ancient aliens with that phrasing. I don’t mean to criticize you, I just have this thought so often when scrolling through this polarized world… And I really don’t know what to do about it. Everything feels so lost.

      • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        The term “critical thinking” alone is so worthless

        No, it’s not. There’s a very specific definition - to think critically, i.e. to not accept any idea without first investigating it and analysing its merit. That’s the absolute basis of all philosophy and science.

        • @kahdbrixk@feddit.de
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          11 year ago

          Talking on the internet is such a weird thing. Where did I say that those two things are the same? Did you not hear my cry for help in the statement above? Instead of going for the attack?

      • @daltotron@lemmy.world
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        21 year ago

        I have this thought a lot too when people discuss things like teaching “media literacy”. I dunno. I’ve seen enough people completely abuse logical fallacies that I really wonder whether or not we’re all logically consistent conscious beings, or if we’re all just kind of flying by the emotionally charged pants seats, and making shit up later to retroactively justify it. People cry strawman, red herring, goalpost moving, when realistically people are just changing the subject to something that they think they know more on, because things aren’t formalized into a rigorous debate where everything is organized and structured and we all actually know what the definitions of things are supposed to be. It’s hard enough to get people to even agree on a definition, because people are so insulated to their little bubbles. Getting past that semantic difference and into the actual debate seems more to me like a structural problem, where people are arguing with the wrong people, than like, a problem you could solve with just raw education. Seems like a structural problem related to the death of the monoculture, and the rapid propagation of regional cultures, even regional cultures online.

        • @kahdbrixk@feddit.de
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          11 year ago

          At least one person seems to get my dilemma. Thank you. I’m really looking for help on this one. Just to find a way to solve this riddle for better understanding.

  • @dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de
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    551 year ago

    We should outlaw political advertisement on social media? Kind of like how cigarette advertisement was eliminated from movie theater ads.

    The fines should be stacked as factors - unmitigated offenses will build up and incur exponentially growing fines. Very large incentive to shut that shit down.

    Politics should be advertised by performance review, not marketing.

    • The Quuuuuill
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      451 year ago

      It would benefit a social cause that is near and dear to his heart: making Mark Zuckerberg extremely wealthy

        • @orphiebaby@lemm.ee
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          The Architect lacks morals, but I will take an intelligent and not-specifically-malicious (nor greedy) being like that over Zuckerberg. Because of who he was and his aims, the Architect could be reasoned with.

    • @ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      111 year ago

      “We will give you tax breaks, you’ll help us build out theocratic fascism!”

      (If anyone asks: Facebook already got caught spying on abortion providers in red states, expect even worse once Project 2025 is enacted.)

  • @skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works
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    321 year ago

    I kind of can’t stand Biden, in spite of the many surprisingly good things he’s done in the last few years.

    But god damn if this isn’t the kind of action from Meta that can only help Trump.

    I am sorry to feel that this decision from Meta has much more to do with certain ongoing wars and preferred candidates than any “EU legislation.”

    Meta wants Trump. Meta wants fascism.

    • @gaifux@lemmy.world
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      -211 year ago

      in spite of the many surprisingly good things he’s done in the last few years

      …that’s about when I stopped reading.

      • Cethin
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        He isn’t great, but he has done some pretty good thing. (Lots of not good things too, obviously.) He’s taken steps with student loan forgiveness, he’s empowered the FTC and DOJ to enforce anti-trust regulations that haven’t been used in far too long, and he’s done a good number of other things too, but nothing else large is coming to mind at the moment.

        They suck at communicating, but they have actually done some good. Biden is far from my choice of president, but it does seem like the progressive faction has at least moved him in the right direction. It’s far from ideal, but he isn’t that bad.

        • @FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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          01 year ago

          Lol you think progressives moved him

          He is STILL desperately trying to win conservatives. DNC fucking DESPISES us.

          • Cethin
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            11 year ago

            Yeah, conservative for sure want to forgive student loan debt…

          • Cethin
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            11 year ago

            Care to use your words and explain? It sounds like you just want to complain and only make things worse. What did I say that wasn’t true?

    • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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      141 year ago

      I work in integrity at Meta. It’s mostly about staying legally compliant with the countries we make $ in. You have to keep in mind we have like 4 billion users, and own 5 out of the top 10 most used apps (hello antitrust?), so it’s a pretty big deal here.

      • @blazeknave@lemmy.world
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        31 year ago

        Tell us more stories. I have former relationships with your trust and safety folks among others. Never heard from integrity

        • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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          Telegram, WhatsApp, and iMessage are all e2e encrypted but backups aren’t. That’s how your messages get read.

          Messenger is actually the most secure platform out of the 4 because there’s no unencrypted cloud backups. However, there’s discussion on rolling back the encryption on Messenger because it’s too good and causing UX pains.

  • 𝐘Ⓞz҉
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    141 year ago

    I like it how people use meta and then also hate and complain about it. Let’s gooooo!

  • @Siegfried@lemmy.world
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    31 year ago

    Concerning is that someone thinks that something from meta can be used as a tool for election integrity

    • Cosmic Cleric
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      Weird this is again making the rounds after the news is 2 years old.

      Looks like they delayed the shutdown, but then announced last month that they’re going to do it finally.

      From the article that you linked…

      Today’s report says Meta began an official process to shut down the tool in February but paused it due to the EU’s Digital Services Act push.