The “Texas Miracle” loses some of its magic as Oracle announces it’s moving its new HQ out of Austin and Tesla lays off nearly 2,700 workers.

  • @deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    1291 year ago

    Texas is a high tax, low service state.

    California is a high tax, high service state.

    Texas spends their taxes on corporate welfare.

    California spends their taxes on education, infrastructure and health care.

    • @vanderbilt@lemmy.world
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      911 year ago

      A company made me an offer last year when I was looking for startups, but they required me to move to Austin. Austin is a nice place, but it’s unfortunately surrounded by Texas. Fast forward to today and they are moving out of Texas because it’s too expensive and they are having trouble retaining talent. The incentives the city has been offering to foster their own Silicon Valley are stalling because it’s not much cheaper and the state legislature is a Barnum circus of inhumanity.

      • GladiusB
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        501 year ago

        Any state that supports a law enforcement that DOESN’T see children dying in a building tells me right away what they are about. Udalve spoke so much to their character and how it was handled after. Just deplorable. I have friends that left the state after the abortion ban because they are women. So, yea. They got issues down there.

        • @jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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          241 year ago

          I understand why women might be stuck in Texas. But it seems foolish af to move somewhere that would force you to incubate a fetus inside your body.

          • iquanyin
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            31 year ago

            and won’t protect the kid once it’s born from getting shot. even with cops right there.

    • @somethingp@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Don’t know if it’s a low service state. They have pretty strong welfare programs, despite what Republicans will have you believe. Their public education is ranked pretty similarly to California for K-12, if not better depending on the specific list. Their public universities are among the best in the country. Their hospitals are the best in the country.

      The biggest drawback is that their legislators think they can practice medicine without having the relevant qualifications. But Californian medical laws and viewpoints have their own drawbacks. Let’s not forget, before covid, anti-vaxers were primarily associated with crunchy liberal moms refusing to vaccinate their children. California was among the first to have a resurgence of measles. CA is also a state trying to obfuscate medical roles by allowing advanced practitioners (NPs and PAs) to practice independently (without a surprising DO or MD), as well as allowing naturopaths to identify themselves as physicians. While it’s easier to see the harms of Texas’s medical laws right now, California has had it’s fair share of negative impact on it’s populous.

      A lot of the Republican rhetoric is empty, meaningless, and far from the truth. This is what makes Republican politics so frustrating. They say one thing, want something else, and do something entirely different. As a liberal it makes it difficult to engage in a meaningful conversation with them. But this sort of state comparison based on broad generalizations also increases the divide, while being very unhelpful.

    • bitwolf
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      361 year ago

      Right? I always wondered why tech moved to Texas it has all the things data centers would hate:

      • unstable electricity
      • high heat
      • high property taxes

      If anything, I’d think they’d move to the great lakes.

      • Close to the Chicago IXP
      • Water for energy
      • Cool weather
      • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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        91 year ago

        Keep them out of our post industrial hellhole!

        But for real idk if these people can handle snow, so give it a few years before they move here

        • @Baahb@feddit.nl
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          21 year ago

          They in fact cannot. Neither California nor Texas is prepared for freezing in any sense of the word.

          • @vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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            21 year ago

            LA is bad with snow but its also not a factor for most of em. I fucken hate snow but I know how to deal with it cause im in the foothills of the San Bernardino mountains and it sometimes slushes the fuck up. I hate it. Also NorCal freezes a lot theres areason why the Donner party happened up there.

  • @proudblond@lemmy.world
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    731 year ago

    For the first two decades of the century, what it meant to be Texan—as explained by the state’s politicians—was largely wrapped up in a feeling of competition with California.

    As a Californian, I can’t help but think of that Mad Men meme: “I don’t think about you at all” or some such. Do all Texans really think this way or does this author just have a huge California-shaped chip on his shoulder?

    • @Bosht@lemmy.world
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      291 year ago

      Yeah, as weird as it sounds older Texans see California as some sort of threat, some weird liberalist state that is too far gone to save or some shit. Almost any political conversation thats had about red vs blue ends up mentioning California. It is the typical ‘old man shaking fist at clouds’ group though. Younger peeps either dont care or say something like ‘why would you want to move there??’ Wothout any way to backup why they said it.

      • @bitwaba@lemmy.world
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        161 year ago

        “there’s nothing wrong with California that a good earthquake wouldn’t fix”. Heard that one a few times.

  • @rsuri@lemmy.world
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    221 year ago

    Texas never attracted techies, it attracted a few Republican tech CEOs with disproportionate shares of power. I’ve always turned down recruiters trying to get me to move there regardless of how good the job is on paper. If I’ve got options, I’m choosing to live on one of the coasts. There’s nothing for me in Texas. I mean I’ve been to Bucees once, it’s worth visiting. But I’m gonna guess the novelty is probably over by the second visit.

  • iquanyin
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    1 year ago

    austin is super expensive now, and tech companies have left. it’s hot, humid, and you or your wife might die if her a pregnancy is non viable. or if the power grid goes out. i have family who moved there but i sure wouldn’t.

  • toofpic
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    101 year ago

    Is it normal to close an article when given two options: consent to sharing your data with 99999 companies or “choose options” and manually disable 999 subsets of said companies?
    I did that once just bein curious of when the list ends, but I’m not repeating that

    • @lemmyingly@lemm.ee
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      91 year ago

      Open it in a browser that’s not your main browser and clear your cookies afterwards. Or have a browser that automatically removes all cookies on exit.

      I hate those types of cookie consent forms because they feel like a dark pattern wanting to make it as excruciating as possible just so you give in and click accept all.

  • @profdc9@lemmy.world
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    71 year ago

    They still have huge ports and oil refineries going for them. Until the Permian Basin is drained.

  • beefbot
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    31 year ago

    LOSING them? Texas is already executing us fags and all the women who aren’t idiots, & I didn’t read about it?

    I thought that wasn’t until next year

  • @Neps@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    21 year ago

    Itd be hard to believe people are actually attracted to this shithole state without there being some wierd political motive behind it