• @redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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    11 year ago

    “Let’s give our new command line app the same name as a popular linux command even though it’s not the same app and behaves differently. I’m sure our users would appreciate it when they have problem with the app and trying to search the solution later.”

  • @taanegl@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Finally. Although, I bet it’s going to be one of these looongass PS OO commands, with an alias tied to it.

    Probably Escalate-RegularUserPrivelige and smack a mandatory -Confirm argument in there as well, just to be annoying.

    • @egonallanon@lemm.ee
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      01 year ago

      The trick to powershell is to make incredibly liberal use of tab completion to speed yourself up. Or make aliases for commands you use really often.

  • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    01 year ago

    And, knowing Windows, won’t let you do as much as a real sudo would anyway. There are so many f-ing things that even Admin is not allowed to do on a Windows box, it is simply annoying. “Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!”

    • Evkob (they/them)
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      01 year ago

      …what?

      I’m always aboard the Microsoft hate train, but I don’t see how them adding sudo fits within EEE. Here’s an excerpt from microsoft/sudo on Github:

      Obviously, everything about permissions and the command line experience is different between Windows and Linux. This project is not a fork of the Linux sudo project, nor is it a port of the Linux sudo project. Instead, Sudo for Windows is a Windows-specific implementation of the sudo concept.

      As the two are entirely different applications, you’ll find that certain elements of the Linux sudo experience are not present in Sudo for Windows, and vice versa.

      Despite sharing a name and features, they’re for two completely separate platforms and offer no interoperability. If MS decided to release their version of sudo for Linux, maybe we could talk about EEE. For now, all they’ve done is implement a useful tool from another platform into theirs, and that’s a (rare) positive for MS, even if this feature should have existed like 30 years ago.

      • @n3m37h@lemmy.world
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        01 year ago

        Linux subsystem for windows… Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.

        It’s 100% per of EEE, subtle as not to make users like you freak out.
        MS won’t do anything that doesn’t help them make more money / more users

        • Evkob (they/them)
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          01 year ago

          Linux subsystem for windows

          If you wanted to talk about EEE regarding Linux subsystem for Windows, you probably should specify that. I share your misgivings about WSL, but this thread is about sudo for Windows which is another thing entirely.

          Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.

          I have a hard time imagining Linux users switching to Windows because of a feature Linux has had since its inception. Of course MS won’t do anything that doesn’t increase their profits, that’s what corporations do. Implementing “new” features is a way of attracting more users, sure, but I still fail to see any way in which sudo for Windows fits the EEE scheme. “Embrace, extend, extinguish” refers to specific predatory business practices, it’s not shorthand for “everything I dislike about capitalism and the tech industry” and using it as such kinda dilutes its original meaning.

      • @mondoman712@lemmy.ml
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        01 year ago

        Will this not dilute search results related to sudo? It’s minor but I think could be considered EEE.

        • @bamboo@lemm.ee
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          01 year ago

          Microsoft has done this already for tons of windows applications. For example, open up powershell and run “curl”. It’s a http downloader program, but not the one you think of, and the args are completely different. This has been the case for years, yet you can still find answers for curl problems by searching. I don’t see this being any different.