• @just_another_person@lemmy.world
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      361 year ago

      They’ve been pulling this shit since the early days. Similar tricks were employed in the 486 days to swap out chips, and again in the Celeron days. I think they switched to the slot style intentionally to keep selling chips to a point lol

          • bruhduh
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            81 year ago

            We have open source designs (RISCV also have GPU designs) but we don’t have manufacture power open sourced yet

              • bruhduh
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                11 year ago

                No, there isn’t yet, there’s the most i could find, but it’s not machines

              • bruhduh
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                21 year ago

                Yes, i hope so too, as for now, semiconductor lithography at home is impossible due how big and complex these machines are, so i have same opinion as you are

      • @grue@lemmy.world
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        121 year ago

        IIRC, the slot CPU thing was because they wanted to get the cache closer to the processor, but hadn’t integrated it on-die yet. AMD did the same thing with the original Athlon.

        On a related note, Intel’s anticompetitive and anti- consumer tactics are why I’ve been buying AMD since the K6-2.

        • @Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world
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          They had integrated the L2 on-die before that already with the Pentium Pro on Socket 8. IIRC the problem was the yields were exceptionally low on those Pentium Pros and it was specifically the cache failing. So every chip that had bad cache they had to discard or bin it as a lower spec part. The slot and SECC form factor allowed them to use separate silicon on a larger node by having the cache still be on-package (the SECC board) instead of on-die.

      • @turmacar@lemmy.world
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        It’s been at least since the “big iron” days.

        Technician comes out to upgrade your mainframe and it consists of installing a jumper to enable the extra features. For only a few million dollars.

  • @mlg@lemmy.world
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    371 year ago

    Turns out, the difference in the socket is just a few pins here and there, and you can make a 8th or 9th generation Coffee Lake CPU work on your Z170/270 board if you apply a few Kapton tape fixes and mod your BIOS,

    Modders giving me a new reason to keep my ye olde z170 mobo instead of just making a new machine with all the nice hardware

  • @bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    131 year ago

    That’s cool, but is there a subset of features or cpu bound operations or something that makes it worth going through the trouble just to run a faster(?) cpu with slower memory?

    • @themoken@startrek.website
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      51 year ago

      They don’t, but they define the socket the processor slots into and probably did this to market the newer chips as more advanced than they are (by bundling a minor chip upgrade with an additional chipset upgrade that may have more uplift).

      I see no other reason to kneecap upgrades like this when upgrading entails the consumer buying more of your product.

      • JohnEdwa
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        That’s exactly what it is. I previously had Intel hardware for a few generations, but I got seriously pissed off that every time I wanted to upgrade, they had come up with a new incompatible socket and discontinued everything older so I had to also buy a new motherboard.

        I think they might be a bit better at supporting older sockets these days, but still, too many sockets and incompatible chipsets.

  • @DontNoodles@discuss.tchncs.de
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    21 year ago

    I wish there was something for HP 800 G3s. I bought them used after a lot of deliberations and would love to keep it running for as long as I can while not losing out on functionalities.