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I love ARM so much compared to x86, but speaking from a low-cost consumer server perspective, x86 is a great value, and it comes with a no compromises on software compatibility.
That’s the biggest thing. apt install xyz works on my N100 based box every time I expect it will, but it was always a crapshoot on a Pi. If you don’t need GPIO you don’t need a Pi.
Don’t forget also the app support, a lot more apps support x86, than ARM.
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ARM boards are just a pain to use right now. There’s always some stupid quirk or driver problem and that’s if you even manage to find an up to date image for your chosen OS that works (because I can just about guarantee the ‘generic ARM’ one won’t). Feels like every few months someone announces something that’ll make all these problems go away yet here we are.
It does seem more likely to not have dumb problems when you have a sane x86 bootloader.
I find it interesting, manufacturers of laptops and maybe even desktops, are looking to switch to arm after decades of x86.
And home servers, which have run on arm for years, are now switching to x86
What is the difference between x86 and X86?
The fact that X86 came after a full stop so his phone auto capitalised it.
I see I got confused as he capitalized the X in the middle of the first sentence as well and thought I had missed something
Didn’t even see that one. Probably just a missclick.
That is probably it, I just wanted to check if there was something new happening
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Could you install older windows systems on a single board x86? Like maybe xp? Or windows 7?
As many have pointed out, price wise it’s not competitive. But more than that, the main feature of the Pi is its software support. I buy a Pi not because it’s got the top specs but because I know I can load a rock solid OS with security support and I won’t have to think about it. This is a problem for every Pi competitor.
You can get a Ryzen minipc for under $200 now.
Where at? Not finding any that low on Amazon
I would assume aliexpress
Funny how 20 chrome tabs is being compared to 4K video playback.
i reallly wish that google had the same incentive to improve battery life and memory usage that apple has with safari
I don’t know if it’s still the case but kernel support and related was nearly always an issue when I tested Raspi alternatives for building homebrew robots. OS updates were a gamble and support and documentation was not good to say the least. Raspi also has every HAT you can imagine to extend their capabilities too.
Best way for pi alternatives I’ve found is to see which one is the most popular for the project / community I’m working with.
It isn’t always the latest and greatest but at least there will be plenty of support.
Some one on the comment section said that
“There’s no innovation here; it uses a Rockchip processor, which is from a Chinese company. Assembling a board with Chinese components isn’t a big deal. I know people who could make an even better board. Innovation would have been if the processor was designed by an Indian company and made entirely in India. But that’s not the case.”
Lol, changing the country of origin doesn’t constitute innovation from a consumer standpoint…
Now if this was using 5nm or chiplit or any of the other buzzwords of the day it could be marketed as innovative in the modern sense of the word.
Realistically there is no innovation left for ARM platforms. They all use the same core schematics. They only control data flow and peripheral IP as a manufacturer, unless they feel like building their own core from the spec (nobody really does that anymore as ARM has been desperately trying to standardize everything). The most “innovation” I’ve seen has come from stubbornness around keeping legacy bus architecture around instead of adopting AXI (even when all the IP they are trying to use already uses AXI and they keep having to make translation hardware).
It’s not a rival. It is in a different sector. And it will rise or fall with the availability of software and support.
How much is it?
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I don’t think the car brand comparison is a great one. While I get your point, the purpose of using different car brand names is not for confusion but actually to reduce confusion — to clarify which products are targeting a luxury market.
For a counter example, consider how Samsung sells premium and cheap smart phones. The cheap smart phones give Samsung a bad name which might be associated with the higher end offering in the eyes of a consumer.
It’s not fair to compare to Toyota to Lexus because a Lexus is targeting a different customer and making different trade-offs in their product, even though it’s the same company.
The recent Pi chips are heavily modified. They’re becoming less and less like their TV tuner roots. I wouldn’t exactly call it a failed product line either. I thought that IP went into numerous devices.
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cost less than 200U$D
More than double the price. Not sure what it’s competing with, but not a pi
depends on specs
