• @eRac@lemmings.world
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    42 days ago

    On the other hand, the only way to get good training data is to generate data indistinguishable from the real-world scenario and then have humans mark it up the way you want the system to do it. You might as well have the data actually be from the real world and recoup some of the costs with sales.

    • @DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      Sure, but you still shouldn’t be selling the technology as actually working, instead of developing.

      Amazon bought whole foods a while back. What would have stopped them from just collecting the data in their own stores, and then developed the tech?

      Hint: shareholder value.

      • @JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml
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        12 days ago

        What would have stopped them from just collecting the data in their own stores, and then developed the tech?

        I won’t pretend that Amazon avoided that due to ethical concerns, but doing that would have almost the exact same ethical concerns.

        • @DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works
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          52 days ago

          All they had to do was run the tech alongside traditional cashiers. Make it known on entry, and your fine. No ethical concerns.

          But what they did was sell tech they didnt have to shareholders to pump up the stock.

          • @JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml
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            22 days ago

            The lying is unacceptable, but either they hire temporary workers to obsolete themselves, or they force tenured people to obsolete themselves.

          • @CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
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            22 days ago

            From an engineering perspective they didn’t want to do this since it’s not just about AI tasks. If you go watch videos of it they have camera arrays and special shelf layouts and all sorts of stuff.

            Not to mention the engineers probably wanted to be able to test it privately and without disrupting an actual store and community.

            So it’s what I would’ve done as well frankly

            • @DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works
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              42 days ago

              What are you talking about?

              It was never AI. It was always cheap remote people working in foreign countries. But you would take that, and sell it as AI like they did?

              • @CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
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                22 days ago

                Looked it up and according to their claims (which we don’t have much other info on) they said that 70% needed manual review. And I’m saying AI here but really that’s the buzzword, there was a whole engineered system behind this that was automated to some degree. So yeah it wasn’t AI but it also wasn’t just people either.