I know there are other ways of accomplishing that, but this might be a convenient way of doing it. I’m wondering though if Reddit is still reverting these changes?

  • @Limeey@lemmy.world
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    481 year ago

    When you edit your comment all you’re doing is adding a “new” comment, the old comment is flagged to not show and the new comment shows in its place.

    This achieves nothing.

    • @abhibeckert@lemmy.world
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      591 year ago

      Reddit was open source until relatively recently. According to the source code, editing comments does overwrite your data. Or at least it used to.

      Keeping old data is expensive, and usually a waste of money.

      • @T156@lemmy.world
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        Relatively recently being 6 years ago.

        Keeping old data is expensive, and usually a waste of money.

        At the same time, text, which Reddit was exclusively, for a good long time, compresses really well. The entirety of Wikipedia goes from 10 TB to 100 GB when compressed, and if it’s just the article text alone, 22 GB.

        That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of data that they would have had to deal with when they started deciding to take on video and image hosting.

      • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Keeping old comments data is small and relatively cheap to store. I’m sure they’ve kept backups. Probably even yearly ones for the past 5 years. Storage for text really doesn’t take up much room. There’s over 4,500,000,000 words in the entirety of Wikipedia. You can download it all right now if you’d like. An offline copy of wiki is currently about 95GB. Probably half the size of your last CoD game update.

    • @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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      I’m still pretty happy that I can change all my comments to quips from story of the eye or jaberwalky and I would encourage everyone to do the same. Seems like a good fuck around and find out situation at least. There will likely be other llms that won’t have an official relationship but will crawl reddit. The more we can jumble it up the better.

  • @Olap@lemmy.world
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    351 year ago

    Reddit is almost certainly going to throw your old comments to them if you edit stuff. We’re pretty fucked. And if you think Lemmy is any different, guess again. We agreed to send our comments to everyone else in the fediverse, plenty of bad actors and a legal minefield allows LLMs to do what they want essentially. The good news is that LLMs are all crap, and people are slowly realising this

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      LLMs are all crap, and people are slowly realising this

      LLM’s have already changed the tech space more than anything else for the last 10 years at least. I get what you’re trying to say but that opinion will age like milk.

      Edit: made wording clearer

    • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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      61 year ago

      LLMs are great for anything you’d trust to an 8 year old savant.

      It’s great for getting quick snippets of code using languages and methods that have great documentation. I don’t think I’d trust it for real work though

    • maegul (he/they)
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      I’ve been harping on about this for a while on the fediverse … private/closed/non-open spaces really ought to be thought about more. Fortunately, lemmy core devs are implementing local only and private communities (local only is already done IIRC).

      Yes they introduce their own problems with discovery and gating etc. But now that the internet’s “you’re the product” stakes have gone beyond what could have been construed as a reasonably transaction, “my attention on an ad … for a service”, to “my mind’s products to be aggregated into an energy sucking job replacing AI … for a service” … well it’s time to normalise closing that door on opportunistic tech capitalists.

    • my_hat_stinks
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      They’ll use old comments either way, using an up-to-date dataset means using a dataset already tainted by LLM-generated content. Training a model on its own output is not great.

      Incidentally this also makes Lemmy data less valuable, most of Lemmy’s popularity came after the rise of LLMs so there’s no significant untainted data from before LLMs.

  • @ramble81@lemm.ee
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    1. Reddit will most likely feed these guys a copy of their DB from before the API switch ensuring an unfucked copy of data before people started messing with it.

    2. The only way to control your data, even on the fediverse is through DRM, the thing so many people hate, but it’s designed to ensure you control who uses your data and how. I know people say “well what about copyrights and licenses?” Tell that to people building LLMs in other jurisdictions that don’t care about those.

    • @PlexSheep@feddit.de
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      DRM always fails, and would fail especially bad in an open and free community which has the purpose of being open and free. DRM is the mortal enemy of many fediverse users.

  • @OutrageousUmpire@lemmy.world
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    241 year ago

    If one wanted to really screw the AI, I’d replace each post/comment with nonsense generated by ChatGPT itself on a higher-than-normal temperature setting. AI would be training on its own generated content, and out of context as well.

  • @SirSamuel@lemmy.world
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    We are commodities

    We exist to be bought and sold

    By the ruling class

    I have been bought and sold

    Many many times

    But only my thoughts

    And identity

    And words

    And face

    So that’s okay

    I’ll just scroll other stolen thoughts

    On a phone built by an eight year old

    Who was bought

    And sold

    Half a world away

    • @sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz
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      Damn, ChatGPT’s poetry extension is fire

      (Joking aside, reading this after reading Banksy’s statement on advertising is just a great double whammy. Love heading to bed with a vague sense of unease :,) )

      • @SirSamuel@lemmy.world
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        Thank you! This was actually my first attempt at free form poetry, it just kind of flowed out of me. It only took till middle age for inspiration to strike lol

        • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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          Actually Microsoft’s bing AI just ingested your poetry into its training set and now it’s co-pilot’s poetry. You have 30 minutes to pay Microsoft 2.4 million dollars or SupremacyAGI will take your house, break your kneecaps, and murder your dog

          • @SirSamuel@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            Jokes on you, i don’t own a house, can’t have a pet in my apartment, and my knees are already bad.

            I love this timeline

  • @rtxn@lemmy.world
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    141 year ago

    I have two unrelated questions.

    • Can I choose what text to use?

    • What is the copyright status of Ram Ranch?

  • BreakDecks
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    Why non-copyrighted? I want to flood Reddit with copyrighted text from the most aggressively litigious rightsholders available. 🍿

    • @Kory@lemmy.mlOP
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      It was irony. The tool is even more clear on that with providing you a link you should NOT use because it’s copyrighted (!!!).

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    It’s not reddit’s data, it’s the users’. Reddit management is just overentitled jerks.

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        Admittedly, I haven’t read the TOS… but I don’t need to. At least where I live it would be illegal to claim ownership of someone else’s work (unless you paid a living wage to create it, or something along those lines. A software company for example can claim ownership of employee created software).

        • @Docus@lemmy.world
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          Maybe you should read them. They are not claiming ownership. They are claiming that you licenced them to use your contributions for whatever purpose they want. Different thing.

    • @FoxBJK@midwest.social
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      The users give the site a pretty broad license for their content. Calling it the user’s data is a moot point.

      Don’t even recall if the Lemmy instance I use has a TOS, but it’s likely the server owner has similar rights just by the nature of how this tech works.

  • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    If they really want to spend money on the crap I put out there that is more of their issue vs mine. I don’t even know why they want this data. Like every reddit comment thread is just various degrees of memes + acting more cynical than the parent comment. A LLM trained on reddit is going to know one lines from pop culture before advocating for suicide.