I’ve been trying to use Matrix to replace sites like Discord or Slack. But it seems that if a user creates an invitation-only room in a server, then invited users who are registered on other servers get errors when trying to join. Not very useful error messages either: “Failed to join room”. (In my case, I tried creating accounts and rooms at nitro.chat and then at converser.eu, but friends registered at matrix.org don’t manage to join).
Quite a let-down. Anyone who’s facing the same problem and has maybe managed to solve it?
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Revolt with federation (they are hinting XMPP) would be very nice
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That’s why I said “would”
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Below the sentence you quoted
However, this does not necessarily mean federation is off the table, possible avenues are:
Implement our own federation protocol Implement a promising up and coming federation protocol, polyproto Implement the Matrix protocol (unlikely, obtuse and unstable)- Implement the XMPP protocol (battle-tested and stable)
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Works on my machine
Matrix 2.0 is pretty close.
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Yeah it does. The main app didn’t yet last I checked but there were other apps that did.
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I want to use matrix so bad but matrix clients suck and there’s no voice channels like discord
XMPP is the way.
Ive had a better time with good old irc. But I hope matrix takes over…
IRC can actually be quite good. The main problem is the super outdated popular networks like libera.chat, but if your run your own IRC server with modern clients it works nicely (or you can use a good bouncer like Soju). Supplement it with a Mumble or Jitsi-meet server and you got at least a functional equivalent to Discord, even though of course not nearly as polished or easy to use as Discord.
I run it off yunohost which comes with it by default. Im not saying its the best to have servers come with it by default, but I sure use it quite a bit!
A bullet proof Matrix UX would be too OP
Which client do you use? Desktop is the best working, second android element slow and laggy but fullest implementation so far, worst are element x which they created only to test still draft phase feature speeding up syncing but otherwise half backed. There is no other third party clients which would be significantly complaint with the protocol
I’ve tried different clients: Element web, desktop, and android, and FluffyChat desktop and android. The problems seems to come, as other have written, when the matrix.org server is involved: it’s people from their handle there which experience glitches joining rooms in other servers. It seems this “part” of the fediverse still needs a lot of development.
Yes, while desktop is mostly working well, other clients are far from being usable. I totally agree with this and choices of matrix foundation are not making it any better imo. Their inventing “new features” and not polishing current ecosystem, is not a best strategic choice
Agree 110%! It’s sad because it pushes back those people who were curious about alternatives and were willing to try. Hopefully things will improve with time…
It works great for a closed group of people, all on one instance. Another data point that federation is hard.
Matrix is not quite like Discord, but we have Revolt. Try that. It’s a discord clone.
the thing that drives me absolutely into matrix-hate-rage is the scrolling. if youre in a matrix space with lots of little different windows attempting to scroll through almost any context is a crapshoot at best.
i like the idea of matrix, but its implementation is hot garbage.
One of my favorite matrix games is playing “guess where it thinks the unread marker should be.”
I’m just as likely to be right as it is.
In my experience it looks like a case of matrix clients not doing a good job of communicating that things happening in the background haven’t finished yet, and throwing generic error messages (a bit like lemmy-ui does sometimes).
I’ve been able to join invite-only rooms on other instances - it said ‘failed’ at first, but when I went back later it turned out that I had actually joined.
Matrix definitely has its problems. Recently I’ve moved to a private matrix install and a lot of the issues I was having went away. I think the matrix.org domain is overloaded and has a bunch of weird errors because of it. If your account or rooms are hosted there and you have issues I’d try running somewhere else and see if you have the same problems.
Like someone else said the clients have issues too. A lot of them don’t know how to report the errors they run into so they spit out garbage. There isn’t a single client that works perfectly but there are a few that are good enough to use if you aren’t using them for mission critical communication. It’s stupid but it is what it is.
Discord sucks ass and no one will convince me otherwise. I have no desire to support them and their constant nitro spam. I’d rather use something like matrix and see how it develops.
